Respecting the DREAM

June 19, 2012


President Obama did what he could to show people the way this last week on how to deal with the massive immigration dysfunction that our US system has become.  In years past, it has been far easier than present day to enter the US and immigrate.  All the way through the late 70s, immigrating to the US was a process that had a finite beginning and end.  Today it is a maze of bureaucracy hampered by pre 911 prejudices and post 911 paranoia.

Homeland Security is a department in the executive branch and thus under the authority of the President.  The policy change is fairly simple.  Children of illegal or undocumented residents could gain at least a 2 year stay on their deportation if they :

• Came to the United States under the age of sixteen;
• Have continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and are present in the U.S. on the date of this memorandum;
• Are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a general education development certificate, or are honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States;
• Have not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, multiple misdemeanor offenses, or otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety;
• Are not above the age of 30.

This announcement has been widely criticized as a political move by the President, but  ask the GOP and Mitt Romney for their vision of how to handle illegal immigration.  They do not have a plan on how to deal with the millions of illegal and undocumented residents.  They do not have a plan on how to change anything from the current status quo which is onerous, cruel and unusual punishment to people for simply wanting a better life but not necessarily committing other crimes.

The children of families caught up in the ICE and Homeland Security bureaucracy are truly innocent in the situation and blameless for the choices of their parents.  This is a bad situation where the government truly needs to reorganize and restructure.

The overall policy is misguided and unrealistic as well.  If we wish to stem the tide with illegal immigration we need to address the rules of employment and the enforcement of hiring and documentation.   As long as illegal immigrants can get a job in the US, they will continue to come.    So far, it appears that Mitt Romney and the GOP want to close their eyes and continue to pretend the current state of our immigration policy is just fine.

The day that President Obama announced the change to deportation policy which is only to be a two year trial, the President was heckled during his opening statement by Neil Munro, an online reporter-blogger for the Daily Caller, a GOP newsite.   As the cameras were trained on the heckler to capture the exchange between President Obama and Mr Munro, you can see the frustration and even seething hatred as Mr Munro appeared to be trying contain himself and allow the President to speak.   Mr Munro, if nothing else is just the latest symbol of the unthinking raging hateful angry opposition which believes that the office and functions of the President is not worthy of high respect, no matter who is in that place.  Mr Munro is just another zombie of the right blinded in their rage.



14 Responses to “Respecting the DREAM”

  1. chilly Says:

    What is very important is that we, as a country, have already invested in the Education of these young people.

    They are punished for their parents crime. The children were dragged along without being part of the decision to enter the United States illegally. They didn’t choose to be taken through a desert, swim a river, crawl through a tunnel or climb a fence!

    For heavens sake, when we look at the cost of just the Elementary, Middle and High School education of these affected persons, that is no small sum of money to throw away.

    Most, maybe even all, of these young people are culturally alien to Mexico and the other countries their parents came from and quite possibly don’t even have family in those countries yet we have sent them there, expelled them, and treated them as if they have been the ones that wronged the USA by sneaking across the border.

    Though I do have to disagree over the immigration system. I am a naturalized Citizen, having come here from the UK when I married. We went through their system. It is hard to deal with but it does have that definite start and finish.

    One thing that I did notice last year when I finally decided to Naturalize rather than be a Legal Resident was the number of people that could not grasp that when they give you a book with the questions and answers to the test and it warns you that you will have to read a sentence in English, write a sentence in English and Speak a sentence in English it is not a job.

    In the room waiting for their naturalization interviews along with me was a good 100+ and out of them there was more than 3/4 failed simply because they either chose to not take the time to try and learn the Q&A cheat sheet supplied to them or couldn’t show a grasp of English.

    So this is my first Presidential Election, well really my first any election.

    I do believe in a route to Citizenship for those that are well behaved and show the characteristics that would make a good Citizen and pay for and pass all the required filings.

    The process though is far less complex and difficult as many think it is. In fact, if you take the time to do what they ask then it doesn’t take long. It took less than 6 weeks from filing of paperwork to complete the Naturalization process except for the actual ceremony which took place 8 weeks later and 6 days after that I did Jury duty.

    There was no bias towards me because I am a ‘English American’, I had to do the same test that they did, right down to having to read, write and speak a sentence. In fact the ones that seemed to do best at the testing were those from Arab, Asian and European countries while, and it sounds terrible but…

    … the Latino’s that failed were angry and were upset saying that they shouldn’t have to do a test that California was stolen from them and they have a right to it.

    Though of course, California, Arizona and New Mexico were sold to the United states and using their ‘reasoning’ means that if you purchase something from Walmart then that item still belongs to Walmart a week later whereas we all know that When you purchase something then it is yours, it ceases to belong to the person that you purchased it from.

    So when it comes to bias against factions I just don’t accept that and I am fairly liberal and while I do think that those that we invested in and would make a great addition to the Family of the USA should be given that pathway I don’t think that it should mean a quick and easy pathway for every Juan, Jose and Juanita just because they decided that they should sneak into the USA without following a defined path set up to weed out those that really shouldn’t be in the USA.

    • Hello Chilly and thanks very much for sharing your experience. It sounds worthy of a blog post on its own. It would certainly be good to share with others going through similar situations, so please share. I do believe that you are not posed to make a judgment however, whether there is some prejudice in our current system. Entry to the US is easier for certain countries. Obtaining a visa for example is far easier for a Briton than it is for a Ghanian.

      Best Regards,

  2. John Liming Says:

    Reblogged this on American Liberal Times and commented:
    Liberal Talking Points is right on target with this one and I am sincerely appreciative of permission which Mr. Blunt has given to reblog this most important article. Thanks a lot and I hope the world reads this!

  3. Cry and Howl Says:

    I think you guys/gals on the left should really stop basing your opinions on “feelings”. Even left leaning news sources recognize this for what it really is …

    • I think the righties should stop basing their opinions on fear greed and whining.

      The right loves to dangle amnesty in front of the latino population as if they will ever do anything for the millions of illegal and undocumented in the country. It is merely a carrot they pull out around most election cycles. President Obama actually attempted to put some action where his campaign promises went. The GOP is all talk and no action on the DREAM act. In my book, on most subjects the GOP is the party of bupkiss. On this, you got nothing for the new arrivals to the US except a xenophobic immigration status quo which encourages folks to stay illegal and undocumented.

      • Cry and Howl Says:

        The key word here Mr. Leftie/Liberal is “illegal”. You folks seem to have a problem with enforcing existing federal laws that you don’t like, not that it surprises me in the least.

      • Try to think of an example from the past of someone who is deemed illegal for being born to the wrong parents. Takes me all the way back to WWII with the Japanese internment and oh yea, didn’t the Nazis have an illegal Jew problem?

        Oh and the last politicians to suggest an amnesty were, drumroll, GWB and good ole Ronnie Reagan…

      • Cry and Howl Says:

        Wrong parents? Well heck, why don’t you just recommend abortions? That’s kinda your thing isn’t it? And sir/ma’am whatever you are … again, and I’ll type slower, the key word is “ILLEGAL”. You know, that word that defines a law that’s been broken …
        You guys crack me up with GWB and Ronnie Reagan… gawd, I wish I could have a dialogue with someone with an IQ above their shoe size.
        Another thing you may not recongize or consider is Barack Hussein Obama is the president (a fraud, but he’s at least playing the part).

      • I’d like to have a dialog with someone who is not condescending and bigoted. Your failure to recognize when the sins of the father are visited on the child just shows where your IQ flatlines. Again, Judaism was declared “ILLEGAL” in 1930s Deutschland. Just because a law is passed does not mean it is just or fair, but then justice and fairness have never been the strong suit of the conservatives.

  4. Cry and Howl Says:

    I’m “condescending and bigoted”? If I’ve been “condescending” please forgive me. But bigoted, I trow not. Anyway, you are not familiar with the scriptures so please be careful how you refer to them …

    “Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.”

    “The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.”

    You seem to be intelligent, just misguided. Have a great weekend.

    • “If I’ve been “condescending” please forgive me. But bigoted, I trow not. Anyway, you are not familiar with the scriptures so please be careful how you refer to them … ”

      You ask for forgiveness and go right back to condescension. You know me not yet you assume a lack of familiarity and call me misguided. That is condescending. Further, I did not ask you for a quote from old english. I can cut and paste any amount of scripture I wish. It is the Meaning of these sacred words that appears lost upon you.

      Our laws were based on judeo-christian principles that our culture was cradled in. It is inherently wrong to hold a child responsible for the misdeeds of their parent.

  5. Cry and Howl Says:

    Ah yes, I can see you have some sensitivity to correction … as you take seem to take offensively.
    Anyway, the “old English” you refered to is only the KJV of the Bible and no, the meaning is not lost upon me. I was only using the scripture to re-inforce your idea that the children are not responsible for the sins of the parents. I hope that’s clear enough. If you’re offended at the “cut and paste” of a section of scripture … I could easily have paraphrased it … but I don’t take using the scriptures lightly and sometimes the meaning can be lost if a word or two is left out or added. That should not offend you, but we’re all wired differently, and some people get offended more easily than others.

    • Hmm. Not sure how to read your words. Prior to this last statement I had the impression that you feel that children of illegal immigrants deserve the same treatment as their parents from ICE and DHS. So far as I’m concerned the actual text from which you quote is only as important as underlying concept of Justice that is in the theme of this Scripture.

      I am offended that you go from apologizing for being condescending back to being condescending in the very next sentence. I’ve seen conservatives do this over and over and they think it’s all very entertaining.

  6. John Liming Says:

    We have to make allowances for those who have all the ideology in the world but whose agendas and ideas the vast majority of Americans have rejected with the re-election of President Obama.

    I am sure this democrat victory has caused a great deal of pain to many on the far right side of the fence.

    Anyway I have learned one lesson the hard way if I haven’t learned anything else – – it is impossible to dialogue with ideologues on the extreme right because their thinking is so “locked in” from 40 + years of listening to their alternate world propaganda.

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